This is something I’m super excited to hear about, especially since there are still very few women chemists, by the way. And I know you had a chance to talk to her about her childhood in Sweden and why she got into chemistry in the first place, which I think most people steer clear of if they if they can avoid chemistry classes. I also love just the entrepreneurial spirit that she has. There’s so much that’s relevant here on the manufacturing side. And she’s very involved in the effort to bring the battery industry back to the United States. Now, she started the second company, and she is at this moment when we’ve all recognized it was a mistake to let so many industries go completely over to China. She exited the company and sold it to a Chinese buyer, because those were the only buyers who were available. Christina’s first company, Boston-Power, was very successful, but when it came time for her to sell it, the only option was to sell it to the Chinese. Murray: It’s such a great story, not just because Christina is a wonderful personality, but also because it says something about this moment we’re in in the United States where we’re trying, through industrial policy, to recreate some of the industries that we lost. But but tell us a little bit more about why you thought Christina was a good guest for the Next Generation audience and, of course, for the Leadership Next audience. Lev-Ram: So I have to say, I love “the battery queen.” You should create nicknames for more of the CEOs we interview. But she’s also very involved in the effort to bring battery manufacturing back to the United States. Her current title is founder and CEO of Cadenza Innovation. She started two different battery companies very successfully. She’s a Swedish chemist, Christina Lampe-Önnerud. Murray: Well, today’s interview is with a woman who has been my friend for 15 years. And this week, we’re featuring the second of the two guests you interviewed live at the Next Generation CEO event Deloitte hosted in D.C. ![]() Last week, we aired your fascinating interview with Ken Frazier, which was fantastic. ![]() Michal Lev-Ram: And I’m Michal Lev-Ram. Alan, last week I teased that we had two very special live episodes for our listeners, and I wasn’t lying.
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